Thread: salaries

Factor in the exchange rate and the US is still lower.

Here is the pay scale for my district.
[url="http://www.ganado.k12.az.us/orc/SALARY%20SCHEDULES%2004-05.pdf"]http://www.ganado.k12.az.us/orc/SALARY% ... 004-05.pdf[/url]
The letters translate into years of experience. A is 0 years experience B is 1 etc. The Number after the degree designation is the number of upper graduate units completed. BA12 means twelve units beyond a Bachelor's degree.

Is the Canadian rate an average or is it standard?

Now, how does a guy, from the states, get Certified in Canada?

Originally Posted by Mark

Factor in the exchange rate and the US is still lower.

Here is the pay scale for my district.
[url="http://www.ganado.k12.az.us/orc/SALARY%20SCHEDULES%2004-05.pdf"]http://www.ganado.k12.az.us/orc/SALARY% ... 004-05.pdf[/url]
The letters translate into years of experience. A is 0 years experience B is 1 etc. The Number after the degree designation is the number of upper graduate units completed. BA12 means twelve units beyond a Bachelor's degree.

Is the Canadian rate an average or is it standard?

Now, how does a guy, from the states, get Certified in Canada?

Hoo Boy. Tom, you make a lot of sense-- and in fact I can add a twist to that scenario. Here on the Island the cost of living is WAY less than on the Mainland--food/clothes/gas/utilities would all be equal, but the cost of housing and transportation is easily double "over there" (in the Big Smoke). Yet....we all have comparable salaries, here in the Southern part of the Province. Salaries do climb the further North you go.

Starting wage here with a 6 year degree is less than 45K. Salary goes up a thousand a year for a max of 10 years. A roughly 5K increase for Masters degree, but nothing else--- like some districts will give a partial raise for a partial completion of a degree. No increments beyond the Masters though.

Maxed out at 10 years and a graduate degree will get you just over 70K, medical and dental benefits (about 80%) and a MODEST pension plan.

Buy a house here in a mid-grade ok neighbourhood for about 250K, maybe a little less. Gasoline is a buck a litre (just over 4$ for a US gallon).

Mark-- best thing you can do is write to the Teachers Federation or the Teacher Qualification Service of the Province you want to teach in and find out what the credentials are, and what of yours can be moved over. For example, here in BC you would write to:

[url]http://www.bctf.bc.ca/[/url]

[url]http://www.tqs.bc.ca/[/url]

Let me know what you find out

Lisa

In my area, cost of living is really what you need to look at. One of my friends and I started teaching at the exact same time, in two different districts. I was in a rural area, and she was in a large, urban area. We were separated by 45 miles.

She "makes" more than I do, but their cost of living is AMAZINGLY higher than mine. It took her job and her husband's job (civil engineer) to make ends meet. Their taxes, utilities, and housing costs were FAR greater than ours. The only thing we pay more for is car insurance, and that's because we have so many country roads and limited snow removal. They were paying more in RENT for their two-bedroom apartment than we pay for our mortgage payment! And we even have a 15 year, not 30 year, mortgage.

They moved back here a few years ago, and she commuted for a year before landing a job here. Even with the cut in pay, they had more money.

Recently I was passing time looking at real-estate ads in the "big city" paper, and I was AMAZED at the prices they were asking for those houses. Small houses with less than 1 acre lots were going for $150,000 and UP. Here the only houses with less than 1 acre lots are on main street, and those are pretty rare. Here you can buy a NEW home and lot between $75,000-$100,000. Few houses here sell for over $150,000. When they DO, it's always to an "out of towner" who doesn't know property values here.

The 50K starting salary that ShannonC quoted is not standard and certainly not an average; it translates to about 40K USD. I'm not sure what part of the country ShannonC checked but it's not like that here in BC. Like Lisa said, the salaries are fairly comparable although Vancouver (the Big Smoke?-that's a new name to me, Lisa!) is the lowest paid in the Lower Mainland--a series of cities around Vancouver. I live in another city in the Lower Mainland and work in Van, the district where I live pays its teachers 5 to 10K more than Vancouver.

Cost of living here in the Lower Mainland is high, high, high. Right in the city of Vancouver, a fairly small house, say a rancher, in a mid-grade ok neighbourhood would run you a minimum of 600K. In my area-a suburb with a nice neigbourhood--I could sell my house for 450K and it would sell really really quickly. Of course, I couldn't afford to move anywhere except FURTHER from the city....

I have a feeling that ShannonC is posting about Ontario rates. They just got a pretty big increase. "Big" is a relative term--I think they got a 7.5% increase, here in BC, we're getting 0,0 and a big fat 0 for the next 3 years! but I digress. I'm pretty sure that the cost of living in Toronto is about the same as Vancouver. Too bad our premier can't quite grasp that.

Don't take this the *wrong way* Green Bunny, but I love you.

And yes, we Islanders call Vancouver "The Big Smoke" (or Grande Fumee, depending)



We got 0 0 and 0?? Did they settle? MAN I gotta listen to the news!

Lisa

According to the pay scale I make almost the exact same amount in Mississippi as I would in Arizona. Interesting...thought I would make a lot less.

I have a Masters and 13 years.

Originally Posted by BBB

According to the pay scale I make almost the exact same amount in Mississippi as I would in Arizona. Interesting...thought I would make a lot less.

I have a Masters and 13 years.

Not Arizona. Ganado. All districts pay different. SOme much higher, some lower.

Mark, I am in Mississippi and the pay scale on the state site is just the starting point. The district I work in pays more than the district I live in. The district i would like to work in pays almost $6000 more a year. I live on the coast in the southern part of the state. All of the districts have a district supplement added to the state base salary. Plus I do not pay for my insurance. I also get a $6000 a year supplement for being national board supplement so I make a lot more than the base salary from the state.
Nan

Originally Posted by BeSeeLisa

Don't take this the *wrong way* Green Bunny, but I love you.

ops: right back atcha, booboo!*

Originally Posted by BeSeeLisa

And yes, we Islanders call Vancouver "The Big Smoke" (or Grande Fumee, depending)

Why is that?

Originally Posted by BeSeeLisa

We got 0 0 and 0?? Did they settle? MAN I gotta listen to the news!

Lisa

No, we haven't settled but I assume, since Gordo perceives himself as King, what G wants is what G gets.




*I call everyone booboo, it's a term of endearment